"Wow Leslie LSBer- thanks for info !"
Thanks for dedicating yourself to responding OPENLY here to questions asked so anyone everyone whomever happens upon this site can learn something more than anyone else at kPFK is 'suppose to say" out loud, it seems.
this means anyone, like Leslie, like YOU TOO, reader here, can ask, answer, question, debate and discuss... without disrespecting any person [tho organizations can be disrespected for their secretive policies and hypocricies ] and maybe be lucky to get some substantial responses.
The above info provided needs to be pursued and researched and utilized by MORE of us who CARE so much about KPFK ...and it's doings...since we spend hours and devote work to writing/ reading/ asking/ activizing ...all to IMPROVE what-is occurring...that currently seems to be Not Ok at this moment more than other times.
again, glad we asked.
glad someone answered.
let's more of us stop hating and diss'in and work TOGETHER , even if we start here, to reduce confict, eliminate hidden agendas and black holes, where info disappears... and find our PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS replacing the elite-powered-secret-dealings-w/o-any-of-our-input.
thanks Leslie....we need more LSB members to respond OPENLY - as you do.
and if any other LSB members dont read this local open site, where do they get their Public Listener-Sponsor input from ?
again, question of who does each LSB member actually represent, not just presume to be a 'representative of' personally which may mean only being very subjective and limited in having other vital feedback and discussions with KPFK contributors ?
Remember, previously the LSB email cited above has not worked when attempted 3x previously, with receipt of a msg from the deamon about not being accessible...but, ok, we can all try it again and see if any one at all reads or responds..maybe.....
One LSB member has said: there was a "comments corner" for LSB people to know what public comments@kpfk.org might be of LSB concerns also. But the only site they could point to was the KPFK website link to "program comments" which says -if you want to know what that song was - implying that kind of info only was sought, or a question about a PROGRAM, ... not ask or qauestion the station's workings, dealings, firings, dismissals, financial problems, et al....
and when an attempt was made to make contact with LSB thru that site, nothing...silence...no contact was possible nor responded, even when addressed to LSB.
so we can try again, and again,
and hopefully not Give UP ...no matter how many false alleys that dead end with wasted time and effort happens. It has. It may continue. Some of us...many of us, may not allow that to happen, repeatedly.
never say 'die' until we are ready to totally throw the whole idea of what Pacifica claims away or create another version similar to it on the internet...w/o a big local radio station...if need be...it's all technologically happening....moving away from traditional media to what remains of free access on net....and then ?????
watch out, changes are a happening...not just the latest presidential election...more is also convoluting and shifting and pivoting and.......
Saturday, November 29, 2008
Open Response from One LSB Member = repost from la.indymedia.org
[by Leslie Saturday, Nov. 29, 2008 at 12:50 AM
leslie@radiojustice.net ]
Do the LSB of KPFK represent a group[s] of listeners and seek their opinions before voting or making any decisions, instead of only representing their individual selves as seems to be the case now ?
We're elected by general election (and the electorate is only a smidgeon more than 10% of the listener-sponsors), so no one has a formal constituency, and we have very poor communications with the listener-sponsors or the listeners in general. Most LSB members probably operate from an ideology that they believe matches a group of listeners, but individually we have different degrees of contact with those groups.
Who does each LSB member actually represent ?
I'd say most LSB members consider themselves "representative of" a group more than they "are representing" a group.
Do they ever tell us about the size of groups they actually inform, ask, represent? ?
There's no mandate to do so, and no requirement that they represent a group.
What are the slants of those they represent ?
Politically, I think you'll find everything from left Libertarians to Progressive Democrats to academics to working class/socialists to a closeted anarchist or revolutionary. Not a nationalist in the bunch right now. We're religious, a-religious, anti-religious, and spiritual, and we're involved in the arts, charitable organizations, human rights groups, and social change organizations.
What are the ways listener-sponsors can have input to LSB members to be included, instead of just hanging out here ?
There's 2008LSB@kpfk.org. It reaches all but a couple of us (server problems). We have the rarely used http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kpfklsb_comments/ (although I don't know how many members check it any more), and just about every LSB member's email is widely available. When I wasn't on the LSB I used my (now defunct) rented web server to forward email from anybody to all the LSB members, but that was rarely used. At another point, I just collected LSB members' email addresses and had them as a group in my address book.
the way the LSB member was elected was by campaigning for votes but are these secret lists only they maintain and respond to... or are these voters then later ignored ?
"Secret lists" is a not exactly what's happening. When we're elected, we all have our own mailing lists and the lists of our friends and any organizations that choose to let us use theirs. There is one truly secret list: the email list of people participating in the Free Pacifica movement some ten years ago. A handful of people have that, and they use it for candidates they prefer, but it must be getting pretty dated by now. I don't have access to it.
Who decides who gets on the Pacifica National Board from LSB and what is the procedure for getting to move up there ?
PNB members are determined by a vote of the LSBs every January. It's the only true power the LSBs have. The Pacifica affiliate stations also nominate two PNB members.
and does it actually take hours and days and weeks of reading the bylaws and rules and all that small print to get generally informed about how KPFK & Pacifica too is actually run ?
No. It depends on the depth you want, but the Bylaws, etc. isn't the way to go. Start by following http://groups.yahoo.com/group/freekpfk, http://groups.yahoo.com/group/newpacifica, and http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kpfklsb. Then come to a few meetings, and if you have time the interest to listen, you can hear the Pacifica National Board meetings at www.kpftx.org.
does one have to be a quasi-lawyer to understand the legalities, meanings of cue words and phrases and the maneuverability of motions, language and ploys played out to have any input in what happens to OUR KPFK ?
huh?
No, but it helps. You'll pick up the trick by listening to objections to motions at the meetings.
we out here, who have paid-up generously at the long and last begging pledge drive have no information - just rumors - just allusions - to the use of the KPFK bldg being used as collateral for another Pacifica station in NY called WBAI - with the Pacifica National Board members making decisions about how to use the building that houses our resource and where our staff work. huh ?
[apparently THEY = PNB = own it ? huh?
how does that make sense ?
the whole group owns OUR building and we rent it here ?
or the Pacifica corp / organization owns it ?
or exactly who holds the deed, pays the mortgage, has title ??]
It's not our building--it was a donation to Pacifica, and the title is held by the Pacifica Foundation. We use it without charge. Right now, the plan is to mortgage the building to for $1M (far less than it's worth) to pay for various outstanding bills, do some programming changes, re-staff some national positions, pay for some promotion, and maybe hire an financial consulting firm.
And decisions are being made where ?
who is NOT PROVIDING THE LISTENERS any information, or any feedback to questions, or asking for listener-input
[no matter how wild or crazy, it is legitimate if we are the shareholder-sponsors of this thing called KPFK, whatever it contains] ?
Are decisions being made in Wash. D.C. ? in NY ? and then brought it in pretense of a 'discussion' that has no power to change what was already planned, decided and controlled elsewhere ?
Decisions are made in telephonic PNB meetings and with the CFO in Berkeley. Some speculate that there are a core of key players on the PNB who are concocting all this. I wouldn't know. Recently especially, by the time decisions get down to the LSBs (which are advisory anyway, and why aren't decisions going up?), they seem to be already made. But the LSB outcry seems to have slowed the loan process (we were told we only had until November 15, but the papers haven't been signed yet), and listener pressure can move small mountains. The email address to reach the entire PNB is pnb@pacifica.org.
And since we all over here dont - dont know s......t - about any of what is real, actual, occurring - and NOT in our name either - tho we thought we were part of the whole thing.....we are no thing, no way to have any opinion or say when we are not told what is occurring either.
Believe me, most of the LSB members who aren't on the PNB don't know what's going on, either. I don't know how much the PNB members know--if I knew how much they knew, I'd probably know what they know.
Where is the principle and essence of what Pacifica claims, what KPFK pledges and advertises...as 'we the people', ...as Free Speech [not hidden secret whispers ], ....as being in favor of egalitarian and open communications ?
what is going on ?
Hell if I know.
who else is going to tell us...the truth...finally ?
leslie@radiojustice.net ]
Do the LSB of KPFK represent a group[s] of listeners and seek their opinions before voting or making any decisions, instead of only representing their individual selves as seems to be the case now ?
We're elected by general election (and the electorate is only a smidgeon more than 10% of the listener-sponsors), so no one has a formal constituency, and we have very poor communications with the listener-sponsors or the listeners in general. Most LSB members probably operate from an ideology that they believe matches a group of listeners, but individually we have different degrees of contact with those groups.
Who does each LSB member actually represent ?
I'd say most LSB members consider themselves "representative of" a group more than they "are representing" a group.
Do they ever tell us about the size of groups they actually inform, ask, represent? ?
There's no mandate to do so, and no requirement that they represent a group.
What are the slants of those they represent ?
Politically, I think you'll find everything from left Libertarians to Progressive Democrats to academics to working class/socialists to a closeted anarchist or revolutionary. Not a nationalist in the bunch right now. We're religious, a-religious, anti-religious, and spiritual, and we're involved in the arts, charitable organizations, human rights groups, and social change organizations.
What are the ways listener-sponsors can have input to LSB members to be included, instead of just hanging out here ?
There's 2008LSB@kpfk.org. It reaches all but a couple of us (server problems). We have the rarely used http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kpfklsb_comments/ (although I don't know how many members check it any more), and just about every LSB member's email is widely available. When I wasn't on the LSB I used my (now defunct) rented web server to forward email from anybody to all the LSB members, but that was rarely used. At another point, I just collected LSB members' email addresses and had them as a group in my address book.
the way the LSB member was elected was by campaigning for votes but are these secret lists only they maintain and respond to... or are these voters then later ignored ?
"Secret lists" is a not exactly what's happening. When we're elected, we all have our own mailing lists and the lists of our friends and any organizations that choose to let us use theirs. There is one truly secret list: the email list of people participating in the Free Pacifica movement some ten years ago. A handful of people have that, and they use it for candidates they prefer, but it must be getting pretty dated by now. I don't have access to it.
Who decides who gets on the Pacifica National Board from LSB and what is the procedure for getting to move up there ?
PNB members are determined by a vote of the LSBs every January. It's the only true power the LSBs have. The Pacifica affiliate stations also nominate two PNB members.
and does it actually take hours and days and weeks of reading the bylaws and rules and all that small print to get generally informed about how KPFK & Pacifica too is actually run ?
No. It depends on the depth you want, but the Bylaws, etc. isn't the way to go. Start by following http://groups.yahoo.com/group/freekpfk, http://groups.yahoo.com/group/newpacifica, and http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kpfklsb. Then come to a few meetings, and if you have time the interest to listen, you can hear the Pacifica National Board meetings at www.kpftx.org.
does one have to be a quasi-lawyer to understand the legalities, meanings of cue words and phrases and the maneuverability of motions, language and ploys played out to have any input in what happens to OUR KPFK ?
huh?
No, but it helps. You'll pick up the trick by listening to objections to motions at the meetings.
we out here, who have paid-up generously at the long and last begging pledge drive have no information - just rumors - just allusions - to the use of the KPFK bldg being used as collateral for another Pacifica station in NY called WBAI - with the Pacifica National Board members making decisions about how to use the building that houses our resource and where our staff work. huh ?
[apparently THEY = PNB = own it ? huh?
how does that make sense ?
the whole group owns OUR building and we rent it here ?
or the Pacifica corp / organization owns it ?
or exactly who holds the deed, pays the mortgage, has title ??]
It's not our building--it was a donation to Pacifica, and the title is held by the Pacifica Foundation. We use it without charge. Right now, the plan is to mortgage the building to for $1M (far less than it's worth) to pay for various outstanding bills, do some programming changes, re-staff some national positions, pay for some promotion, and maybe hire an financial consulting firm.
And decisions are being made where ?
who is NOT PROVIDING THE LISTENERS any information, or any feedback to questions, or asking for listener-input
[no matter how wild or crazy, it is legitimate if we are the shareholder-sponsors of this thing called KPFK, whatever it contains] ?
Are decisions being made in Wash. D.C. ? in NY ? and then brought it in pretense of a 'discussion' that has no power to change what was already planned, decided and controlled elsewhere ?
Decisions are made in telephonic PNB meetings and with the CFO in Berkeley. Some speculate that there are a core of key players on the PNB who are concocting all this. I wouldn't know. Recently especially, by the time decisions get down to the LSBs (which are advisory anyway, and why aren't decisions going up?), they seem to be already made. But the LSB outcry seems to have slowed the loan process (we were told we only had until November 15, but the papers haven't been signed yet), and listener pressure can move small mountains. The email address to reach the entire PNB is pnb@pacifica.org.
And since we all over here dont - dont know s......t - about any of what is real, actual, occurring - and NOT in our name either - tho we thought we were part of the whole thing.....we are no thing, no way to have any opinion or say when we are not told what is occurring either.
Believe me, most of the LSB members who aren't on the PNB don't know what's going on, either. I don't know how much the PNB members know--if I knew how much they knew, I'd probably know what they know.
Where is the principle and essence of what Pacifica claims, what KPFK pledges and advertises...as 'we the people', ...as Free Speech [not hidden secret whispers ], ....as being in favor of egalitarian and open communications ?
what is going on ?
Hell if I know.
who else is going to tell us...the truth...finally ?
Friday, November 28, 2008
KPFK's secrecy slowly seeping out = a repost from la.indymedia.org
Finally, someone with info & courage tells us some more !
thanks Leslie [Radford LSB member] for being as open and informative and directing the rest of us peons of KPFK telling us of other places to read about info and what is actually happening to OUR station.
My [writer's] wish is this:
1. for you to continue to write also on Indymedia, as an article instead of a comment so that the conversations can be displayed and maybe, who knows ? read by those who suddenly latch on to this exposed great site Sometimes the comments are lost in the slew of new articles.
2. That those who read these articles and comments not necessarily identify or write words but somehow make themselves visible so we know that this site is accessible and utilized as a Discourse Locale for those who have no voice, no say, no power, no nutin but still do pay cash to KPFK regularly anyhow.
3. That KPFK would open up it's carefully controlled secret ways and inform the rest of US who live so dedicatedly for the growth and life of OUR RADIO station, and not think we need-not-know what they do or decide.... when we are worried, fearful, anxious, frustrated and angered by being so cleverly "left OUT" .
4. That the LSB of KPFK represent a group[s] of listeners and seek their opinions before voting or making any decisions, instead of only representing their individual selves as seems to be the case now.
Who does each LSB member actually represent ?
Do they ever tell us about the size of groups they actually inform, ask, represent?
What are the slants of those they represent ?
What are the ways listener-sponsors can have input to LSB members to be included, instead of just hanging out here ?
the way the LSB member was elected was by campaigning for votes but are these secret lists only they maintain and respond to... or are these voters then later ignored ?
Who decides who gets on the Pacifica National Board from LSB and what is the procedure for getting to move up there ?
and does it actually take hours and days and weeks of reading the bylaws and rules and all that small print to get generally informed about how KPFK & Pacifica too is actually run ?
does one have to be a quasi lawyer to understand the legalities, meanings of cue words and phrases and the maneuverability of motions, language and ploys played out to have any input in what happens to OUR KPFK ? huh?
thanks Leslie [Radford LSB member] for being as open and informative and directing the rest of us peons of KPFK telling us of other places to read about info and what is actually happening to OUR station.
My [writer's] wish is this:
1. for you to continue to write also on Indymedia, as an article instead of a comment so that the conversations can be displayed and maybe, who knows ? read by those who suddenly latch on to this exposed great site Sometimes the comments are lost in the slew of new articles.
2. That those who read these articles and comments not necessarily identify or write words but somehow make themselves visible so we know that this site is accessible and utilized as a Discourse Locale for those who have no voice, no say, no power, no nutin but still do pay cash to KPFK regularly anyhow.
3. That KPFK would open up it's carefully controlled secret ways and inform the rest of US who live so dedicatedly for the growth and life of OUR RADIO station, and not think we need-not-know what they do or decide.... when we are worried, fearful, anxious, frustrated and angered by being so cleverly "left OUT" .
4. That the LSB of KPFK represent a group[s] of listeners and seek their opinions before voting or making any decisions, instead of only representing their individual selves as seems to be the case now.
Who does each LSB member actually represent ?
Do they ever tell us about the size of groups they actually inform, ask, represent?
What are the slants of those they represent ?
What are the ways listener-sponsors can have input to LSB members to be included, instead of just hanging out here ?
the way the LSB member was elected was by campaigning for votes but are these secret lists only they maintain and respond to... or are these voters then later ignored ?
Who decides who gets on the Pacifica National Board from LSB and what is the procedure for getting to move up there ?
and does it actually take hours and days and weeks of reading the bylaws and rules and all that small print to get generally informed about how KPFK & Pacifica too is actually run ?
does one have to be a quasi lawyer to understand the legalities, meanings of cue words and phrases and the maneuverability of motions, language and ploys played out to have any input in what happens to OUR KPFK ? huh?
“Open Letter to KPFK's LSB” =reposting from la.indymedia.org
KPFK's local board members are voted in by some other listener-sponsors. But are any of those who send money regularly to support and maintain the radio station have a say about anything ? huh ?
Do the LSB of KPFK represent a group[s] of listeners and seek their opinions before voting or making any decisions, instead of only representing their individual selves as seems to be the case now ?
Who does each LSB member actually represent ?
Do they ever tell us about the size of groups they actually inform, ask, represent?
What are the slants of those they represent ?
What are the ways listener-sponsors can have input to LSB members to be included, instead of just hanging out here ?
the way the LSB member was elected was by campaigning for votes but are these secret lists only they maintain and respond to... or are these voters then later ignored ?
Who decides who gets on the Pacifica National Board from LSB and what is the procedure for getting to move up there ?
and does it actually take hours and days and weeks of reading the bylaws and rules and all that small print to get generally informed about how KPFK & Pacifica too is actually run ?
does one have to be a quasi-lawyer to understand the legalities, meanings of cue words and phrases and the maneuverability of motions, language and ploys played out to have any input in what happens to OUR KPFK ?
huh?
we out here, who have paid-up generously at the long and last begging pledge drive have no information - just rumors - just allusions - to the use of the KPFK bldg being used as collateral for another Pacifica station in NY called WBAI - with the Pacifica National Board members making decisions about how to use the building that houses our resource and where our staff work. huh ?
[apparently THEY = PNB = own it ? huh?
how does that make sense ?
the whole group owns OUR building and we rent it here ?
or the Pacifica corp / organization owns it ?
or exactly who holds the deed, pays the mortgage, has title ??]
And decisions are being made where ?
who is NOT PROVIDING THE LISTENERS any information, or any feedback to questions, or asking for listener-input [no matter how wild or crazy, it is legitimate if we are the shareholder-sponsors of this thing called KPFK, whatever it contains] ?
Are decisions being made in Wash. D.C. ? in NY ? and then brought it in pretense of a 'discussion' that has no power to change what was already planned, decided and controlled elsewhere ?
And since we all over here dont - dont know s......t - about any of what is real, actual, occurring - and NOT in our name either - tho we thought we were part of the whole thing.....we are no thing, no way to have any opinion or say when we are not told what is occurring either.
Where is the principle and essence of what Pacifica claims, what KPFK pledges and advertises...as 'we the people', ...as Free Speech [not hidden secret whispers ], ....as being in favor of egalitarian and open communications ?
what is going on ?
who else is going to tell us...the truth...finally ?
Do the LSB of KPFK represent a group[s] of listeners and seek their opinions before voting or making any decisions, instead of only representing their individual selves as seems to be the case now ?
Who does each LSB member actually represent ?
Do they ever tell us about the size of groups they actually inform, ask, represent?
What are the slants of those they represent ?
What are the ways listener-sponsors can have input to LSB members to be included, instead of just hanging out here ?
the way the LSB member was elected was by campaigning for votes but are these secret lists only they maintain and respond to... or are these voters then later ignored ?
Who decides who gets on the Pacifica National Board from LSB and what is the procedure for getting to move up there ?
and does it actually take hours and days and weeks of reading the bylaws and rules and all that small print to get generally informed about how KPFK & Pacifica too is actually run ?
does one have to be a quasi-lawyer to understand the legalities, meanings of cue words and phrases and the maneuverability of motions, language and ploys played out to have any input in what happens to OUR KPFK ?
huh?
we out here, who have paid-up generously at the long and last begging pledge drive have no information - just rumors - just allusions - to the use of the KPFK bldg being used as collateral for another Pacifica station in NY called WBAI - with the Pacifica National Board members making decisions about how to use the building that houses our resource and where our staff work. huh ?
[apparently THEY = PNB = own it ? huh?
how does that make sense ?
the whole group owns OUR building and we rent it here ?
or the Pacifica corp / organization owns it ?
or exactly who holds the deed, pays the mortgage, has title ??]
And decisions are being made where ?
who is NOT PROVIDING THE LISTENERS any information, or any feedback to questions, or asking for listener-input [no matter how wild or crazy, it is legitimate if we are the shareholder-sponsors of this thing called KPFK, whatever it contains] ?
Are decisions being made in Wash. D.C. ? in NY ? and then brought it in pretense of a 'discussion' that has no power to change what was already planned, decided and controlled elsewhere ?
And since we all over here dont - dont know s......t - about any of what is real, actual, occurring - and NOT in our name either - tho we thought we were part of the whole thing.....we are no thing, no way to have any opinion or say when we are not told what is occurring either.
Where is the principle and essence of what Pacifica claims, what KPFK pledges and advertises...as 'we the people', ...as Free Speech [not hidden secret whispers ], ....as being in favor of egalitarian and open communications ?
what is going on ?
who else is going to tell us...the truth...finally ?
Tuesday, November 18, 2008
KPFK slipping slippling into the past, not the "future" song
[[this is a reposting from www.la.indymedia.org from Leslie Radford, LSB member of KPFK 11/12/08
http://la.indymedia.org/news/2008/11/221843_comment.php#222040 ]]
DRAFT PROPOSAL for a response to hijacking KPFK
To: Lonnie Hicks, Pacifica CFO
To: Sherry Gendleman, Chair, and the Pacifica National Board
To: The Local Station Boards of KPFA, KPFT, WBAI, and WPFW
The KPFK would like to convey its displeasure and the reluctance of our listener-sponsors and staff to the Foundation plan to mortgage the KPFK building and to the lack of proper notice and consultation in the process of determining to risk the KPFK building to provide the network with short-term cash flow.
The KPFK building's market value is far greater than the value of the loan. Such an arrangement, especially in this economic climate, is an open invitation to the lender to foreclose at any opportunity. Pacifica has other holdings valued nearer to the $1M to be borrowed, and collateralizing any of these would offer less temptation to a lender to take the property in a default situation.
Our listener-sponsors and staff continue to reach our budget goals, even as our station absorbs the greatest loss of staff in the network. Now Pacifica is demanding that our listener-sponsors risk their capital investment as well. Without the safeguard of a repayment plan in place, the greatest burden for repaying the note will fall on those with the most to lose--KPFK staff and listener-sponsors.
If the Foundation insists on going forward, in spite of the strongest objections of the KPFK Local Station Board, to dismantle the security and operations of its strongest unit, then the KPFK insists on a contractual repayment plan. To that end, the KPFK Local Station Board herein amends its budget such that, beginning in February 2009, KPFK will pay no Central Service fees until 80% of the loan and interest is repaid from sources other than KPFK sponsors and donors, at which time KPFK agrees to pay the remaining 20% of the loan plus 20% of the
interest. The loan has been presented to us as a stop-gap to a cash-on-hand shortfall, so that beginning the repayment plan in February should be more than sufficient.
Further, we demand that Pacifica take up the long-standing recommendation of the Foundation CFO to develop a marketing and programming plan directed toward a younger and more diverse audience, and that this plan be implemented across the network within the time frame of the repayment.
We also demand that, from now on, Foundation staff and the PNB work transparently, honestly, and in good faith with local stations and station boards when negotiating the fate of the stations and bargaining on the goodwill
of local listener-subscribers.
What is happening to KPFK could happen to any of the stations, and we ask that other stations join with us in forestalling the Foundation staff and governance from raiding select station's resources to cover inadequate Foundation planning. This appropriation of station assets without notice and consultation sets a precedent that endangers every station in Pacifica.
Sincerely,
--Leslie Radford
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a commentary made also on indymedia by Sidestepper
KPFK slipping slippling into the past, not the "future" song
by sidestepper Thursday, Nov. 13, 2008 at 4:09 PM
No BAIL OUTS TO PACIFICA, or banks, or other financially deficiently run corps or instutitions !!!!
++++++++++++++
Now what do YOU THINK and what do you WANT TO DO about our KPFK being hi-low-jacked ?
http://la.indymedia.org/news/2008/11/221843_comment.php#222040 ]]
DRAFT PROPOSAL for a response to hijacking KPFK
To: Lonnie Hicks, Pacifica CFO
To: Sherry Gendleman, Chair, and the Pacifica National Board
To: The Local Station Boards of KPFA, KPFT, WBAI, and WPFW
The KPFK would like to convey its displeasure and the reluctance of our listener-sponsors and staff to the Foundation plan to mortgage the KPFK building and to the lack of proper notice and consultation in the process of determining to risk the KPFK building to provide the network with short-term cash flow.
The KPFK building's market value is far greater than the value of the loan. Such an arrangement, especially in this economic climate, is an open invitation to the lender to foreclose at any opportunity. Pacifica has other holdings valued nearer to the $1M to be borrowed, and collateralizing any of these would offer less temptation to a lender to take the property in a default situation.
Our listener-sponsors and staff continue to reach our budget goals, even as our station absorbs the greatest loss of staff in the network. Now Pacifica is demanding that our listener-sponsors risk their capital investment as well. Without the safeguard of a repayment plan in place, the greatest burden for repaying the note will fall on those with the most to lose--KPFK staff and listener-sponsors.
If the Foundation insists on going forward, in spite of the strongest objections of the KPFK Local Station Board, to dismantle the security and operations of its strongest unit, then the KPFK insists on a contractual repayment plan. To that end, the KPFK Local Station Board herein amends its budget such that, beginning in February 2009, KPFK will pay no Central Service fees until 80% of the loan and interest is repaid from sources other than KPFK sponsors and donors, at which time KPFK agrees to pay the remaining 20% of the loan plus 20% of the
interest. The loan has been presented to us as a stop-gap to a cash-on-hand shortfall, so that beginning the repayment plan in February should be more than sufficient.
Further, we demand that Pacifica take up the long-standing recommendation of the Foundation CFO to develop a marketing and programming plan directed toward a younger and more diverse audience, and that this plan be implemented across the network within the time frame of the repayment.
We also demand that, from now on, Foundation staff and the PNB work transparently, honestly, and in good faith with local stations and station boards when negotiating the fate of the stations and bargaining on the goodwill
of local listener-subscribers.
What is happening to KPFK could happen to any of the stations, and we ask that other stations join with us in forestalling the Foundation staff and governance from raiding select station's resources to cover inadequate Foundation planning. This appropriation of station assets without notice and consultation sets a precedent that endangers every station in Pacifica.
Sincerely,
--Leslie Radford
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a commentary made also on indymedia by Sidestepper
KPFK slipping slippling into the past, not the "future" song
by sidestepper Thursday, Nov. 13, 2008 at 4:09 PM
No BAIL OUTS TO PACIFICA, or banks, or other financially deficiently run corps or instutitions !!!!
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Now what do YOU THINK and what do you WANT TO DO about our KPFK being hi-low-jacked ?
S.O.S. Save Our Station Now ! KPFK insiders = speak OUT to us all, please ! Drop those secret ways !
a few of US, KPFK workers, volunteers, contributors, Sponsor-Owners have heard bits and pieces of rumors, of strange disapearances, of missing staff, of the KPKF building being sold off or used as collateral for other people's debts...
and yet we cannot get any information at our 'low' level....
do you have any info you can share with us?
know anyone on LSB whose address can be shared so we can inquire further?
know anyone who is "talking" or "leaking" as there seems to be a GAG ORDER
or else the secrecy and dark holes we cannot see thru might be more visible ??
are you part of the conspiracy, getting-together-to-plan KPFK's life or demise or changes?
what are you willing to do to help Expose what we are left out of, deliberately being excluded tho we are called "pledge-$$$$-contributor-owners" of OUR KPFK STATION ?
anything ?
please share if you will, if you can...
also see articles found on www.la.indymedia.org about KPFK ..
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where else is anything being written about what is happening w/o transparency and what is occuring under Other's / Insiders-Only Control ?
is it all happening without any input from those of us who have given tooooo much love, energy, time, money, heartfelt dedication and more to maintaining the morality of this organisation ?
S.O.S. save our station.....now ! tell us how....
and yet we cannot get any information at our 'low' level....
do you have any info you can share with us?
know anyone on LSB whose address can be shared so we can inquire further?
know anyone who is "talking" or "leaking" as there seems to be a GAG ORDER
or else the secrecy and dark holes we cannot see thru might be more visible ??
are you part of the conspiracy, getting-together-to-plan KPFK's life or demise or changes?
what are you willing to do to help Expose what we are left out of, deliberately being excluded tho we are called "pledge-$$$$-contributor-owners" of OUR KPFK STATION ?
anything ?
please share if you will, if you can...
also see articles found on www.la.indymedia.org about KPFK ..
..
where else is anything being written about what is happening w/o transparency and what is occuring under Other's / Insiders-Only Control ?
is it all happening without any input from those of us who have given tooooo much love, energy, time, money, heartfelt dedication and more to maintaining the morality of this organisation ?
S.O.S. save our station.....now ! tell us how....
Monday, November 17, 2008
S.O.S. - KPFK rumor or true?
Is Jerry Quickly leaving.....already ? You - this reader - please confirm what you know here someone ...anyone....please !
find out what you can and share the info & expose what is being secretly manipulated or negotiated at KPFK... and so all those who recently spent their dollars in the pledge drive but can have "nothing to say" about any dealings there can GET A REFUND NOW !
Rumor has been heard that Jerry Quickly of Beneath the Surface and one of the few Paid Staff people there [ we dont even know why he gets paid while others dont, but that's another question no one ever answers ] is "taking a leave of absence for 6 months"....
is this true? why is it happening ? is this in lieu of being fired ? or keeping a foot in KPFK's door for later ?
Is the KPFK radio station BUILDING BEING SOLD OUT AS COLLATERAL FOR A FAILING STATION IN NY ?
what is really going on ?
who knows anything to share?
who is collectivizing or uniting to HAVE A VOICE where our money and ears are ?
why is everything being closed behind iron doors with only brief little leaks emerging, like poison from under the door cracks ?
who is in charge there ?
Does the elected LSB have any power ?
Is anyone at LSB saying anything about what they are being confronted with ?
Is there a GAG ORDER in place and what enforces it ?
WHAT CAN WE DO out here in the ether world when we 'know nutin' and are powerless, help-less, and frustrated at being LEFT OUT COMPLETELY while shenanigans are going on [or else why hide all problems/ solutions/ possibilities and not engage some or all of US who pay dues to that station and just spent $1,000,000 collectively to keep it as OURS ????
S.O.S.
save our station,
but it is being stolen, corrupted, and exported to NY meanwhile we sit here in pretend-subservient-silence.
ugh !
the financial chaos of nations is out of our individual hands, and so are our contributions to our radio staion access to what was before called "free speech". It obviously aint free at all, but being sold away.
tell us what you know and where else to share info or blog and get TOGETHER
WE WILL NOT BE IGNORED OR DENIED. at least not me.
find out what you can and share the info & expose what is being secretly manipulated or negotiated at KPFK... and so all those who recently spent their dollars in the pledge drive but can have "nothing to say" about any dealings there can GET A REFUND NOW !
Rumor has been heard that Jerry Quickly of Beneath the Surface and one of the few Paid Staff people there [ we dont even know why he gets paid while others dont, but that's another question no one ever answers ] is "taking a leave of absence for 6 months"....
is this true? why is it happening ? is this in lieu of being fired ? or keeping a foot in KPFK's door for later ?
Is the KPFK radio station BUILDING BEING SOLD OUT AS COLLATERAL FOR A FAILING STATION IN NY ?
what is really going on ?
who knows anything to share?
who is collectivizing or uniting to HAVE A VOICE where our money and ears are ?
why is everything being closed behind iron doors with only brief little leaks emerging, like poison from under the door cracks ?
who is in charge there ?
Does the elected LSB have any power ?
Is anyone at LSB saying anything about what they are being confronted with ?
Is there a GAG ORDER in place and what enforces it ?
WHAT CAN WE DO out here in the ether world when we 'know nutin' and are powerless, help-less, and frustrated at being LEFT OUT COMPLETELY while shenanigans are going on [or else why hide all problems/ solutions/ possibilities and not engage some or all of US who pay dues to that station and just spent $1,000,000 collectively to keep it as OURS ????
S.O.S.
save our station,
but it is being stolen, corrupted, and exported to NY meanwhile we sit here in pretend-subservient-silence.
ugh !
the financial chaos of nations is out of our individual hands, and so are our contributions to our radio staion access to what was before called "free speech". It obviously aint free at all, but being sold away.
tell us what you know and where else to share info or blog and get TOGETHER
WE WILL NOT BE IGNORED OR DENIED. at least not me.
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